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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 20:48:41 GMT
I, The United Kazakh Republics of SovietSparta, hereby nominate myself for the position of Lord Chancellor. If I am elected, I will: 1) Create more democracy 2) Rebuild the Atlas Federation Military 3) Promote roleplay 4) Improve Security 5) Make moderators more respected. Currently, people don't really listen to them. 6) Get TAF more involved in interregional politics. 7) Increase forum usage 8) Recruit more nations I am also experienced and active. If you have any questions please post them so I may answer them. Additionally, any constructive criticism is welcomed.
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Post by Isolationist State of Islam on Feb 14, 2016 21:32:09 GMT
1) How are you going to create more? We practically vote on everything, I haven't heard anyone, but you complain about a lack of democracy. 2) Nobody is going to join that military. How are you going to rebuild it? Ask people to? Last time we tried that, we did one raid, and everybody stopped giving a shit. 3) How? 3) How? 5) What are you talking about? From what I've seen when they say something it goes. Not that I'm against respecting them, it just seems like you're beating a dead horse. 6) Why? 7) Why? 8) How? 9) The experience you talk about is from the last time you were chancellor you tried to overthrow Trigori in the name of 'democracy' by installing yourself as a dictator. Why should we trust you?
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Post by SAIF FARA on Feb 14, 2016 21:35:32 GMT
BACK DOWN SPARTA. IT'S MY TURN.
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Post by Isolationist State of Islam on Feb 14, 2016 21:39:58 GMT
BACK DOWN SPARTA. IT'S MY TURN. Can you show us some propaganda?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 22:28:01 GMT
1) How are you going to create more? We practically vote on everything, I haven't heard anyone, but you complain about a lack of democracy. 2) Nobody is going to join that military. How are you going to rebuild it? Ask people to? Last time we tried that, we did one raid, and everybody stopped giving a shit. 3) How? 3) How? 5) What are you talking about? From what I've seen when they say something it goes. Not that I'm against respecting them, it just seems like you're beating a dead horse. 6) Why? 7) Why? 8) How? 9) The experience you talk about is from the last time you were chancellor you tried to overthrow Trigori in the name of 'democracy' by installing yourself as a dictator. Why should we trust you? 1) The votes are purely advisory and have no true bearing and only happen on Trigori's say so. I'd like to see votes happening more often, more power to the people, and restoration of the Senate. 2) We already have several members and are currently recruiting from other regions. I want to increase our recruitment efforts, both for the region and the military, and have more military activity going on. 3) Creating more events in AI nations and boosting recruitment. 4) I'd like to see the Delegate become non-executive and make the position of chancellor a regional officer position. Additionally, I'd like to improve relations and hopefully forge alliances with other regions. 5) True, but I'd like to prevent new nations from disrespecting them in the future. While I believe that it is ultimately the individual who chooses whether to respect or disrespect the moderators, a more positive environment should prevent the chances of this happening. 6) We need allies, it helps with recruitment, and I'd personally like to see some sort of collaboration between us and other regions, whether it be a special RP event or something else. 7) Special RP events happening on the forum, such as the one Mazda GMed a while ago, more political activity, and forum games. 8) Create a recruitment campaign, appoint recruiters, and improve interregional relations. 9) For the five hundredth time, that is not what happened. There was a misunderstanding and Trigori thought I had violated regional law, so he tried to strip me from my position. I didn't know what was going on so I freaked out. I never try to install myself as dictator, and I don't know why you would assume that. I was also completely pardoned, because it was, like I stated previously, a misunderstanding.
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Post by Isolationist State of Islam on Feb 15, 2016 0:09:41 GMT
1) The popular vote has always won in the past though 2) If we do that, then we'll start to come off as an gameplay nation, which we are not. 3) Fair enough 4) I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't affect RP 5) Who cares? Eventually new nations will respect them once the boot is placed on their neck. And what do you mean a positive environment? Some sort of safe space? I like the way our region is, and I don't think cramping down on free-speech will fix anything. 6) Alright 7) Fair enough, I enjoy a nice forum game 8) Fair enough, but I don't want so many nations in the region that I can't keep track of RP 9) No, I do not think it was a misunderstanding. Weren't there screenshots where you put in the world factbook that you were now the leader. Why would you freak out in the first place? You banjected Trigori, that doesn't seem like a misunderstanding. I would assume that because you banjected the founder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 2:10:38 GMT
1) The popular vote has always won in the past though 2) If we do that, then we'll start to come off as an gameplay nation, which we are not. 3) Fair enough 4) I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't affect RP 5) Who cares? Eventually new nations will respect them once the boot is placed on their neck. And what do you mean a positive environment? Some sort of safe space? I like the way our region is, and I don't think cramping down on free-speech will fix anything. 6) Alright 7) Fair enough, I enjoy a nice forum game 8) Fair enough, but I don't want so many nations in the region that I can't keep track of RP 9) No, I do not think it was a misunderstanding. Weren't there screenshots where you put in the world factbook that you were now the leader. Why would you freak out in the first place? You banjected Trigori, that doesn't seem like a misunderstanding. I would assume that because you banjected the founder. 1) Yes, because we've only voted on things Trigori doesn't care about. Everything else is decided by him without a poll. 2) Not necessarily. The military resides in a completely different region. I know you're not a fan of gameplay, but some people like it. I see no reason we shouldn't at least attempt to build one. 5) I'd rather it not come to that. People are much more efficient if they are doing something by choice rather than because they're forced to. I see no reason we shouldn't make sure they're respected. There's absolutely nothing to lose. It wouldn't require suppression of free speech at all. 9) Then I don't know what to tell you. I told you what happened and if you continue to deny it, the problem is with you. I did write that I was temporarily in control, but if I didn't we would've fallen into anarchy. Additionally, it would be foolish to assume that taking control as a dictator would be a viable option. It would've been impossible.
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Post by Isolationist State of Islam on Feb 15, 2016 4:58:09 GMT
1) The popular vote has always won in the past though 2) If we do that, then we'll start to come off as an gameplay nation, which we are not. 3) Fair enough 4) I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't affect RP 5) Who cares? Eventually new nations will respect them once the boot is placed on their neck. And what do you mean a positive environment? Some sort of safe space? I like the way our region is, and I don't think cramping down on free-speech will fix anything. 6) Alright 7) Fair enough, I enjoy a nice forum game 8) Fair enough, but I don't want so many nations in the region that I can't keep track of RP 9) No, I do not think it was a misunderstanding. Weren't there screenshots where you put in the world factbook that you were now the leader. Why would you freak out in the first place? You banjected Trigori, that doesn't seem like a misunderstanding. I would assume that because you banjected the founder. 1) Yes, because we've only voted on things Trigori doesn't care about. Everything else is decided by him without a poll. 2) Not necessarily. The military resides in a completely different region. I know you're not a fan of gameplay, but some people like it. I see no reason we shouldn't at least attempt to build one. 5) I'd rather it not come to that. People are much more efficient if they are doing something by choice rather than because they're forced to. I see no reason we shouldn't make sure they're respected. There's absolutely nothing to lose. It wouldn't require suppression of free speech at all. 9) Then I don't know what to tell you. I told you what happened and if you continue to deny it, the problem is with you. I did write that I was temporarily in control, but if I didn't we would've fallen into anarchy. Additionally, it would be foolish to assume that taking control as a dictator would be a viable option. It would've been impossible. 1) Name 3 things that were important that we never voted on 2) Fair enough 5) So what exactly are you going to do? Just say, hey respect them? I don't understand
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 7:46:30 GMT
1) Yes, because we've only voted on things Trigori doesn't care about. Everything else is decided by him without a poll. 2) Not necessarily. The military resides in a completely different region. I know you're not a fan of gameplay, but some people like it. I see no reason we shouldn't at least attempt to build one. 5) I'd rather it not come to that. People are much more efficient if they are doing something by choice rather than because they're forced to. I see no reason we shouldn't make sure they're respected. There's absolutely nothing to lose. It wouldn't require suppression of free speech at all. 9) Then I don't know what to tell you. I told you what happened and if you continue to deny it, the problem is with you. I did write that I was temporarily in control, but if I didn't we would've fallen into anarchy. Additionally, it would be foolish to assume that taking control as a dictator would be a viable option. It would've been impossible. 1) Name 3 things that were important that we never voted on 2) Fair enough 5) So what exactly are you going to do? Just say, hey respect them? I don't understand 1) Establisment of a military, joining TUDB, creating an anti-Red Fleet coalition, reconciling with Qandaristan, the strike system, suspending everyone from posting on the RMB until Trigori got the updates map claims, dissolving the Senate, etc. 5) Several ways. First by stressing the importance of their job and that they were chosen to be more because they were qualified for it. Secondly by creating an all around better community. Right now, our community, while not as bad as before, is still quite toxic. I admit that I have contributed to this in the past, but I'm trying to do better and if I am elected, I vow to help our region overcome this problem together, as a community.
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Post by Trigori on Feb 15, 2016 8:52:47 GMT
The military resides in a different region because someone didn't want to even make embassies with the motherland.
We are also already restoring our relations with the PFQ and have re-joined their alliance (now called ORCA).
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Post by Isolationist State of Islam on Feb 15, 2016 17:07:04 GMT
1) Name 3 things that were important that we never voted on 2) Fair enough 5) So what exactly are you going to do? Just say, hey respect them? I don't understand 1) Establisment of a military, joining TUDB, creating an anti-Red Fleet coalition, reconciling with Qandaristan, the strike system, suspending everyone from posting on the RMB until Trigori got the updates map claims, dissolving the Senate, etc. 5) Several ways. First by stressing the importance of their job and that they were chosen to be more because they were qualified for it. Secondly by creating an all around better community. Right now, our community, while not as bad as before, is still quite toxic. I admit that I have contributed to this in the past, but I'm trying to do better and if I am elected, I vow to help our region overcome this problem together, as a community. 5) People have to want to change Sparta. You can't just tell them to. Doing what you want would require new laws limiting free speech.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:03:47 GMT
1) Establisment of a military, joining TUDB, creating an anti-Red Fleet coalition, reconciling with Qandaristan, the strike system, suspending everyone from posting on the RMB until Trigori got the updates map claims, dissolving the Senate, etc. 5) Several ways. First by stressing the importance of their job and that they were chosen to be more because they were qualified for it. Secondly by creating an all around better community. Right now, our community, while not as bad as before, is still quite toxic. I admit that I have contributed to this in the past, but I'm trying to do better and if I am elected, I vow to help our region overcome this problem together, as a community. 5) People have to want to change Sparta. You can't just tell them to. Doing what you want would require new laws limiting free speech. I don't think you understand what I'm saying at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 5:55:57 GMT
If a liberal government that wants more freedoms controls a conservative nation, the people will only take advantage of the rights they see fit. If a conservative government that want to return to 50 years ago controls a liberal nation, the can take away rights that the people were using.
A lot of what he stands for is liberal to this region as he is adding more rights. Fun fact it is your right to exercise what rights you wish. If the people dont want them they can just not use them, but they are available for those who do.
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Post by World Traveler on Mar 2, 2016 0:07:42 GMT
1) How are you going to create more? We practically vote on everything, I haven't heard anyone, but you complain about a lack of democracy. 2) Nobody is going to join that military. How are you going to rebuild it? Ask people to? Last time we tried that, we did one raid, and everybody stopped giving a shit. 3) How? 3) How? 5) What are you talking about? From what I've seen when they say something it goes. Not that I'm against respecting them, it just seems like you're beating a dead horse. 6) Why? 7) Why? 8) How? 9) The experience you talk about is from the last time you were chancellor you tried to overthrow Trigori in the name of 'democracy' by installing yourself as a dictator. Why should we trust you? I know how he can increase democracy. He should scrap the whole plan! The plan is not fair and gives all power to the King and 6 other nations (the Royal Council). The parliament has no power and exists solely for the purpose of making it look like the people are represented. The parliament can raise an issue, but not even address it! The King and Royal Council do that, and they don't even have to accept the issue! I was the only one in The Atlas Federation to vote against the plan.
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Post by Vissegaard on Mar 2, 2016 11:01:13 GMT
I was the only one in The Atlas Federation to vote against the plan. I bet that made your mother proud of you. Seriously, concerning the fact that your are a newbie around here and your past in the regions you've previously travelled, you'd probably be much better off taking your time to observe and get used to our politics before engaging in your troublesome "hurr durr democracy" self-gratification fest. I've got my eye on you. You have been warned.
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